Si pagan 30 por el Coentrao, pagarán la clausula de kUN

Tulkas escribió:una estupidez enorme fichar a coentrao por 30 millonazos teniendo a marcelo y di maria, no lo comprendo.
Lo del kun, hay pocos jugadores que sean cracks, y bastantes que son muy buenos. Pues el kun es un crack, el pipa y karim muy buenos. No fichar a un jugador asi que se pone a tiro, es otra cagada. El kun es un superclase.

jez_alez escribió:

Germanicus escribió:

Aye escribió:eso cree germanicus, que un buen dia, el Kun dijo...quiero jugar en el madrid, y sin tansiquiera hablar con el club de chamartin diré que me quiero pirar del aleti, le diré a ujfalusi que me piro al madrid (entre otros) y a mi yerno que me quedo a vivir a Madrid pese a que me quiero marchar del aleti (será al getafe o al rayo según germanicus).

Dije antes de que hablaran del Kun que algo se inventarian, en cuanto salio lo del Kun, dije que ese era el invento, y ya veremos si lo es o no...

Germanicus tío,... es que resultas muy cabezón macho... que el kun no acabase en el Madrid no sería prueba de nada... hay mil ejemplos de negociaciones que no se concretan luego, como Villa con el Madrid hace dos temporadas o Cesc que lleva hablando con el Barça un par de añitos (incluso con el Madrid también seguro) y a día de hoy sigue en el Arsenal... pero bueno, seguro que eso también es un invento...

Germanicus escribió:

jez_alez escribió:

Germanicus escribió:

Aye escribió:eso cree germanicus, que un buen dia, el Kun dijo...quiero jugar en el madrid, y sin tansiquiera hablar con el club de chamartin diré que me quiero pirar del aleti, le diré a ujfalusi que me piro al madrid (entre otros) y a mi yerno que me quedo a vivir a Madrid pese a que me quiero marchar del aleti (será al getafe o al rayo según germanicus).

Dije antes de que hablaran del Kun que algo se inventarian, en cuanto salio lo del Kun, dije que ese era el invento, y ya veremos si lo es o no...

Germanicus tío,... es que resultas muy cabezón macho... que el kun no acabase en el Madrid no sería prueba de nada... hay mil ejemplos de negociaciones que no se concretan luego, como Villa con el Madrid hace dos temporadas o Cesc que lleva hablando con el Barça un par de añitos (incluso con el Madrid también seguro) y a día de hoy sigue en el Arsenal... pero bueno, seguro que eso también es un invento...

Prueba es que el Madrid lo ha negado desde el primer minuto, si para ti lo que digan los periodicos vale mas, pues alla tu. Para mi es un invento.

Aye escribió:

Germanicus escribió:

jez_alez escribió:

Germanicus escribió:

Aye escribió:eso cree germanicus, que un buen dia, el Kun dijo...quiero jugar en el madrid, y sin tansiquiera hablar con el club de chamartin diré que me quiero pirar del aleti, le diré a ujfalusi que me piro al madrid (entre otros) y a mi yerno que me quedo a vivir a Madrid pese a que me quiero marchar del aleti (será al getafe o al rayo según germanicus).

Dije antes de que hablaran del Kun que algo se inventarian, en cuanto salio lo del Kun, dije que ese era el invento, y ya veremos si lo es o no...

Germanicus tío,... es que resultas muy cabezón macho... que el kun no acabase en el Madrid no sería prueba de nada... hay mil ejemplos de negociaciones que no se concretan luego, como Villa con el Madrid hace dos temporadas o Cesc que lleva hablando con el Barça un par de añitos (incluso con el Madrid también seguro) y a día de hoy sigue en el Arsenal... pero bueno, seguro que eso también es un invento...

Prueba es que el Madrid lo ha negado desde el primer minuto, si para ti lo que digan los periodicos vale mas, pues alla tu. Para mi es un invento.

claro, como lo de never never never.

Que si germanicus que si. Que si ficha el Kun por el madrid serás capaz de decir que el madrid aprovechó que el kun quería aprovechando que el pisuerga pasa por valladolid. Total lo tuyo es querer tener razón si o si

Germanicus escribió:

Aye escribió:

Germanicus escribió:

jez_alez escribió:

Germanicus escribió:

Aye escribió:eso cree germanicus, que un buen dia, el Kun dijo...quiero jugar en el madrid, y sin tansiquiera hablar con el club de chamartin diré que me quiero pirar del aleti, le diré a ujfalusi que me piro al madrid (entre otros) y a mi yerno que me quedo a vivir a Madrid pese a que me quiero marchar del aleti (será al getafe o al rayo según germanicus).

Dije antes de que hablaran del Kun que algo se inventarian, en cuanto salio lo del Kun, dije que ese era el invento, y ya veremos si lo es o no...

Germanicus tío,... es que resultas muy cabezón macho... que el kun no acabase en el Madrid no sería prueba de nada... hay mil ejemplos de negociaciones que no se concretan luego, como Villa con el Madrid hace dos temporadas o Cesc que lleva hablando con el Barça un par de añitos (incluso con el Madrid también seguro) y a día de hoy sigue en el Arsenal... pero bueno, seguro que eso también es un invento...

Prueba es que el Madrid lo ha negado desde el primer minuto, si para ti lo que digan los periodicos vale mas, pues alla tu. Para mi es un invento.

claro, como lo de never never never.

Que si germanicus que si. Que si ficha el Kun por el madrid serás capaz de decir que el madrid aprovechó que el kun quería aprovechando que el pisuerga pasa por valladolid. Total lo tuyo es querer tener razón si o si

Otro con el puto never never, a ver si se van a leer a que se debio la respuesta, como no tienen npi lo usan haciendo el ridiculo!!! Pero claro, como se creen todo lo que les dicen los periolistos y no tienen ni un poquitito de criterio para buscarse si las cosas son ciertas o no...
Y que raro, tu dices que quiero tener la razon si o si, pero lo tuyo es que yo no tengo la razon por que si...

Aye escribió:

Germanicus escribió:

Aye escribió:

Germanicus escribió:

jez_alez escribió:

Germanicus escribió:

Aye escribió:eso cree germanicus, que un buen dia, el Kun dijo...quiero jugar en el madrid, y sin tansiquiera hablar con el club de chamartin diré que me quiero pirar del aleti, le diré a ujfalusi que me piro al madrid (entre otros) y a mi yerno que me quedo a vivir a Madrid pese a que me quiero marchar del aleti (será al getafe o al rayo según germanicus).

Dije antes de que hablaran del Kun que algo se inventarian, en cuanto salio lo del Kun, dije que ese era el invento, y ya veremos si lo es o no...

Germanicus tío,... es que resultas muy cabezón macho... que el kun no acabase en el Madrid no sería prueba de nada... hay mil ejemplos de negociaciones que no se concretan luego, como Villa con el Madrid hace dos temporadas o Cesc que lleva hablando con el Barça un par de añitos (incluso con el Madrid también seguro) y a día de hoy sigue en el Arsenal... pero bueno, seguro que eso también es un invento...

Prueba es que el Madrid lo ha negado desde el primer minuto, si para ti lo que digan los periodicos vale mas, pues alla tu. Para mi es un invento.

claro, como lo de never never never.

Que si germanicus que si. Que si ficha el Kun por el madrid serás capaz de decir que el madrid aprovechó que el kun quería aprovechando que el pisuerga pasa por valladolid. Total lo tuyo es querer tener razón si o si

Otro con el puto never never, a ver si se van a leer a que se debio la respuesta, como no tienen npi lo usan haciendo el ridiculo!!! Pero claro, como se creen todo lo que les dicen los periolistos y no tienen ni un poquitito de criterio para buscarse si las cosas son ciertas o no...
Y que raro, tu dices que quiero tener la razon si o si, pero lo tuyo es que yo no tengo la razon por que si...

la diferencia entre tener razón si o si, es que la mayoria piensa como yo y tu erre que erre.


y venga va, con lo buena persona que eres no querrás que haga el ridiculo otra vez, explicame porque no puedo compararlo con el never never never

Never, never, never is Real's response to Beckham talk
. . . but they said the same thing about Ronaldo

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The Guardian, Wednesday 30 April 2003 00.37 BST
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Real Madrid last night issued the most emphatic of denials that they have any interest in signing David Beckham from Manchester United, in the process breaking their own taboo on commenting publicly on transfer speculation.

The Spanish club last week knocked United out of the Champions League quarter- finals and Beckham's absence from Sir Alex Ferguson's starting line-up that night served to fuel stories of an imminent departure to Madrid, something that the England captain has done nothing to dispel with his "never say never" remark and his pointed applause to all four sides of grounds after his last two appearances for the club.

But last night Real issued a public statement that left little room for doubt.

It said: "Surrounding the speculation regarding the supposed interest from Real Madrid in signing David Beckham, the club wishes to communicate that:

"1. No contact has existed between Real Madrid and Manchester United on this issue.

"2. Neither directly nor indirectly has there been any contact between Real Madrid and Mr Beckham.

"3. Despite the speculation surrounding this issue, Madrid have no intention of negotiating the transfer of Mr Beckham.

"4. Against the general policy of the club which never uses official sources to reject rumours, this press release has been issued with the objective of putting an end to the growing speculation which has circulated without any foundation linking Mr Beckham with Real Madrid."

Earlier Madrid's president Florentino Perez had been equally unequivocal. When asked about the speculation involving Beckham, after a meeting of the G14 group of elite European clubs in Brussels, he said: "Never . . . never . . . never.

"Nobody at Real Madrid has ever spoken about Beckham, and I do not want to say anything more about this matter myself."

Perez is president of G14, a group of which Peter Kenyon, United's chief executive, is a vice-president. Yesterday they barely exchanged words beyond the usual pleasantries at the meeting which took place at the Amigo Hotel in the Belgian capital. They even sat at opposite ends of the assembly hall's huge oval table.

Afterwards Kenyon could not hide his satisfaction on hearing of Perez's ringing rebuttal. "I am delighted Senor Perez has confirmed this in such an emphatic manner," he said, "but, anyway, we at Manchester United never had any intention of selling him. The speculation about David has reached new heights because he's had a phenomenal season but this had almost been overshadowing everything we've achieved.

"David has stated himself that he doesn't want to go anywhere but we have always been reluctant to make any public statements of any sort about the make-up of our team for next season.

"I'm also assured by David's people that they don't want him to leave Manchester United. Everyone at Old Trafford will be grateful to have this confirmed in such a manner by Real Madrid."

Recent history, however, means that even such explicit denials from Madrid will not halt all speculation. Only last summer the club spent the best part of a month denying any interest in Ronaldo - and United know, better than almost anyone else, where that finished up.

The G14 clubs, meanwhile, agreed unanimously to demand 20% of the 2006 World Cup profits in exchange for dropping their opposition to other Fifa competitions such as the clubs' World Championship and the Confederations Cup.

They will take the proposed formula back to Fifa in response to a challenge laid down by its president, Sepp Blatter, at a meeting between the organisations last month.

Kenyon said it was inevitable that "World Cup compensation" negotiations would involve clubs' attitudes to the world governing body's more contentious tournaments.

He added: "We accept that Fifa is contracted to the Confederations Cup, which will go ahead in June, but we think there is a way we can work with Fifa beyond that. It's also inevitable, given the way the game is organised, that all these issues will be linked together."

He refused to go into details about the formula but it is understood that the figure proposed is 20%, which would represent a £30m return to be shared among all the clubs who sent players to the World Cup last year, based on overall profits of about £140m.

jez_alez escribió:http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2003/apr/30/newsstory.sport4

Never, never, never is Real's response to Beckham talk
. . . but they said the same thing about Ronaldo

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Keir Radnedge in Brussels
The Guardian, Wednesday 30 April 2003 00.37 BST
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Real Madrid last night issued the most emphatic of denials that they have any interest in signing David Beckham from Manchester United, in the process breaking their own taboo on commenting publicly on transfer speculation.

The Spanish club last week knocked United out of the Champions League quarter- finals and Beckham's absence from Sir Alex Ferguson's starting line-up that night served to fuel stories of an imminent departure to Madrid, something that the England captain has done nothing to dispel with his "never say never" remark and his pointed applause to all four sides of grounds after his last two appearances for the club.

But last night Real issued a public statement that left little room for doubt.

It said: "Surrounding the speculation regarding the supposed interest from Real Madrid in signing David Beckham, the club wishes to communicate that:

"1. No contact has existed between Real Madrid and Manchester United on this issue.

"2. Neither directly nor indirectly has there been any contact between Real Madrid and Mr Beckham.

"3. Despite the speculation surrounding this issue, Madrid have no intention of negotiating the transfer of Mr Beckham.

"4. Against the general policy of the club which never uses official sources to reject rumours, this press release has been issued with the objective of putting an end to the growing speculation which has circulated without any foundation linking Mr Beckham with Real Madrid."

Earlier Madrid's president Florentino Perez had been equally unequivocal. When asked about the speculation involving Beckham, after a meeting of the G14 group of elite European clubs in Brussels, he said: "Never . . . never . . . never.

"Nobody at Real Madrid has ever spoken about Beckham, and I do not want to say anything more about this matter myself."

Perez is president of G14, a group of which Peter Kenyon, United's chief executive, is a vice-president. Yesterday they barely exchanged words beyond the usual pleasantries at the meeting which took place at the Amigo Hotel in the Belgian capital. They even sat at opposite ends of the assembly hall's huge oval table.

Afterwards Kenyon could not hide his satisfaction on hearing of Perez's ringing rebuttal. "I am delighted Senor Perez has confirmed this in such an emphatic manner," he said, "but, anyway, we at Manchester United never had any intention of selling him. The speculation about David has reached new heights because he's had a phenomenal season but this had almost been overshadowing everything we've achieved.

"David has stated himself that he doesn't want to go anywhere but we have always been reluctant to make any public statements of any sort about the make-up of our team for next season.

"I'm also assured by David's people that they don't want him to leave Manchester United. Everyone at Old Trafford will be grateful to have this confirmed in such a manner by Real Madrid."

Recent history, however, means that even such explicit denials from Madrid will not halt all speculation. Only last summer the club spent the best part of a month denying any interest in Ronaldo - and United know, better than almost anyone else, where that finished up.

The G14 clubs, meanwhile, agreed unanimously to demand 20% of the 2006 World Cup profits in exchange for dropping their opposition to other Fifa competitions such as the clubs' World Championship and the Confederations Cup.

They will take the proposed formula back to Fifa in response to a challenge laid down by its president, Sepp Blatter, at a meeting between the organisations last month.

Kenyon said it was inevitable that "World Cup compensation" negotiations would involve clubs' attitudes to the world governing body's more contentious tournaments.

He added: "We accept that Fifa is contracted to the Confederations Cup, which will go ahead in June, but we think there is a way we can work with Fifa beyond that. It's also inevitable, given the way the game is organised, that all these issues will be linked together."

He refused to go into details about the formula but it is understood that the figure proposed is 20%, which would represent a £30m return to be shared among all the clubs who sent players to the World Cup last year, based on overall profits of about £140m.

Y es que, independientemente de esto, que es lo primero que ha salido y el guardian me parece lo bastante fiable... está repetido hasta la saciedad... no sé lo que le habrán contado a este chico pero le tienen confundido.

Además... esto es lo de menos... la expresión se usa como lo que todos vemos verano tras verano... no hace falta que Florentino diga el "never, never, never" para negar mil fichajes que al final se acaban haciendo.

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jez_alez escribió:http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2003/apr/30/newsstory.sport4

Never, never, never is Real's response to Beckham talk
. . . but they said the same thing about Ronaldo

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Keir Radnedge in Brussels
The Guardian, Wednesday 30 April 2003 00.37 BST
Article history
Real Madrid last night issued the most emphatic of denials that they have any interest in signing David Beckham from Manchester United, in the process breaking their own taboo on commenting publicly on transfer speculation.

The Spanish club last week knocked United out of the Champions League quarter- finals and Beckham's absence from Sir Alex Ferguson's starting line-up that night served to fuel stories of an imminent departure to Madrid, something that the England captain has done nothing to dispel with his "never say never" remark and his pointed applause to all four sides of grounds after his last two appearances for the club.

But last night Real issued a public statement that left little room for doubt.

It said: "Surrounding the speculation regarding the supposed interest from Real Madrid in signing David Beckham, the club wishes to communicate that:

"1. No contact has existed between Real Madrid and Manchester United on this issue.

"2. Neither directly nor indirectly has there been any contact between Real Madrid and Mr Beckham.

"3. Despite the speculation surrounding this issue, Madrid have no intention of negotiating the transfer of Mr Beckham.

"4. Against the general policy of the club which never uses official sources to reject rumours, this press release has been issued with the objective of putting an end to the growing speculation which has circulated without any foundation linking Mr Beckham with Real Madrid."

Earlier Madrid's president Florentino Perez had been equally unequivocal. When asked about the speculation involving Beckham, after a meeting of the G14 group of elite European clubs in Brussels, he said: "Never . . . never . . . never.

"Nobody at Real Madrid has ever spoken about Beckham, and I do not want to say anything more about this matter myself."

Perez is president of G14, a group of which Peter Kenyon, United's chief executive, is a vice-president. Yesterday they barely exchanged words beyond the usual pleasantries at the meeting which took place at the Amigo Hotel in the Belgian capital. They even sat at opposite ends of the assembly hall's huge oval table.

Afterwards Kenyon could not hide his satisfaction on hearing of Perez's ringing rebuttal. "I am delighted Senor Perez has confirmed this in such an emphatic manner," he said, "but, anyway, we at Manchester United never had any intention of selling him. The speculation about David has reached new heights because he's had a phenomenal season but this had almost been overshadowing everything we've achieved.

"David has stated himself that he doesn't want to go anywhere but we have always been reluctant to make any public statements of any sort about the make-up of our team for next season.

"I'm also assured by David's people that they don't want him to leave Manchester United. Everyone at Old Trafford will be grateful to have this confirmed in such a manner by Real Madrid."

Recent history, however, means that even such explicit denials from Madrid will not halt all speculation. Only last summer the club spent the best part of a month denying any interest in Ronaldo - and United know, better than almost anyone else, where that finished up.

The G14 clubs, meanwhile, agreed unanimously to demand 20% of the 2006 World Cup profits in exchange for dropping their opposition to other Fifa competitions such as the clubs' World Championship and the Confederations Cup.

They will take the proposed formula back to Fifa in response to a challenge laid down by its president, Sepp Blatter, at a meeting between the organisations last month.

Kenyon said it was inevitable that "World Cup compensation" negotiations would involve clubs' attitudes to the world governing body's more contentious tournaments.

He added: "We accept that Fifa is contracted to the Confederations Cup, which will go ahead in June, but we think there is a way we can work with Fifa beyond that. It's also inevitable, given the way the game is organised, that all these issues will be linked together."

He refused to go into details about the formula but it is understood that the figure proposed is 20%, which would represent a £30m return to be shared among all the clubs who sent players to the World Cup last year, based on overall profits of about £140m.

Y es que, independientemente de esto, que es lo primero que ha salido y el guardian me parece lo bastante fiable... está repetido hasta la saciedad... no sé lo que le habrán contado a este chico pero le tienen confundido.

Además... esto es lo de menos... la expresión se usa como lo que todos vemos verano tras verano... no hace falta que Florentino diga el "never, never, never" para negar mil fichajes que al final se acaban haciendo.

El never * 3, fué a una pregunta de si el Madrid habia negociado con David Beckham, NO SI EL MADRID ALGUN DIA FICHARIA A BECKHAM que es en el contexto en que se usa, que es el de que el Madrid nunca lo trairia, ok?
Segundo, lo del Kun ya se vera, claro que ustedes diran que siempre tenian la razón y que el Madrid lo queria, yo me mantengo en que el Madrid NO LE QUIERE y el Kun, y el Atletico estan usando el nombre del Madrid para sus intereses, y ya no voy a decir la puta prensa que cada anio le ve la cara de tontos a muchos.