toro85 escribió:
Creo que en Santander no se han enterado mucho de las Reglas, o por lo menos no se han tomado las molestias de releer el reglemento de la Europa League:
2.04 If the winner of the domestic cup qualifies for the UEFA Champions League, the domestic cup runner-up qualifies for the UEFA Europa League at the stage initially reserved for the lowest ranking top domestic league representative (or the winner of another official domestic competition specified in paragraph 2.03). Should both the winner and the runner-up of the domestic cup qualify for the UEFA Champions League,
the association concerned may enter for the UEFA Europa League the club which finishes the top domestic league immediately below the other club or clubs which qualify for the UEFA Europa League. In both cases, the access stage initially reserved for the domestic cup winner is reserved for the club which finishes the domestic league in the highest position out of all the clubs which qualify for the UEFA Europa League from the association concerned (see Annex Ia). Each representative of the domestic league will then enter the competition at the stage initially reserved for the domestic league representative ranked immediately above it.
2.06 Unless the UEFA Cup titleholder qualifies for the UEFA Champions League through its domestic championship, it is guaranteed a place in the group stage of the UEFA Europa League.
If the titleholder does qualify for the UEFA Europa League through its domestic competitions, the number of places to which its national association is entitled in the UEFA Europa League does not change. If the UEFA Cup titleholder
does not qualify for either the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League through its domestic competitions, its participation in the UEFA Europa League is not at the expense of the contingent of its association.Creo que queda bastante claro:
El Atlético juega la Europa League => Si gana la copa, el puesto Europeo de la copa queda en el "limbo".
El Sevilla juega la Champions => Si gana la copa, el puesto Europeo de la copa pasa al Atletico: He aquí donde aparece el embrollo, que no me parece tan dificil de entrelazar:
- El Atletico como finalista se "clasificaria" a través del puesto de Copa. Como va de defensor del Titulo, el puesto queda en el "limbo"
y la otra posiblidad sería:
- No se cuenta el subcampeonato del Atletico como "clasificación" a traves del puesto de Copa. Con lo que el puesto de Copa pasa aqui:
the association concerned may enter for the UEFA Europa League the club which finishes the top domestic league immediately below the other club or clubs which qualify for the UEFA Europa League. En este caso concreto, sería el Villareal. Lo de que pasa a los semifinalistas es una chorrada que alguíen se ha inventado para ilusionar a los pobres Racinguistas.
Que logica tendría lo de pasar a los semifinalistas? Que pasaria entonces, según esa logica, si los dos no se hubieran clasificado por la liga para Europa? Quien podría ir a la Europa League? Lo sortearian a los chinos? O al piedra-papel-tijera? O mejor todavia, si los dos semifinalistas se hubieran clasificado directamente para Europa, se sortearia entre los equipos que llegaron a los cuartos de final?